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conscience before god, i have come to a certainly that my strengths are not -- the pope's declining health has been an issue. he goes to and from the altar on a moving platform, so he doesn't have to walk down the long aisle. sometimes he using a cane. his brothers says the doctors told hi not to take any more transatlantic trips. he is also an nbc vattian analyst. george, good to see you. you and i are in somewhat frequent contact, as you send out notes about what's going on, but did anybody really see this coming? i nope he's talked about the possibility of retirement, but now? >> i was going to say, chris, it's an unexpected pleasure to see you today. this is a surprise to timing, not to fact. the pope has indicated on

several previous indications if he ever came to the decision in prayer and conscience he could not give the service the church deserved, he would leave, not stand on his ego or stand on ceremony. he would clear the path for a new pope. the timing is a bit surprising, but when it happens in 719 years, it's always going to be surprising. >> you know what i thought, george, i thought he must -- do you think he's slowing down or he's really not well? >> i saw the pope in december shortly after he made six new cardinals. i thought he looked weaker than when i saw him in june. he gave a beautiful sermon at christmas midnight mass, but he looked weaker then to me too. he has a long-standing heart condition. he has arthritis problems in both legs. i think the point to be

underscored here is that this was a decision taken in conscience after great prayer. this is not someone just throwing in the towel or throwing up his hands. this is someone saying the office of peter needs vigorous leadership, and because i can't provide that, i'm going to create the possibility for a presumably younger, more vigorous man to take my place. >> he wrote a book -- well, actually book is called "light of the world" it was a question and answer. one of the questions was whether or not he would retire. he answers it several different times. the first time when he was asked, did he think of resigning, he said when the dangers is great, one must not run away. for that reason -- precisely at a time like this one, stand fast and endure a difficult

situation. that is my view. one can resign at a peaceful moment or when one simply did not go on. american catholics and americans in general tend to look at the catholic church through that american lens and look at the fact that the former card nat from los angeles was essentially relieved of any public duties because of the priest sex scandal. that is an ongoing concern for the church. the number of priest says an ongoing concern. so i guess my question is what kind of church is pope benedict leaving, and in particular as it relates to the american catholic. >> i think the pope is leaving behind a church in the united states that is in the strongest shape of any developed world. far stronger than western europe, stronger than latin

america or canada. another quarter of a million will enter the catholic church this easter. seminaries in chicago, in maryland, at the north american college in rome are more full than they have been in 40 years, so there are real signs of vitality in the church in the united states. i think what we need to recognize, chris, is that this is a hinge moment in history. benedict xvi will be the last pope who attended the second vatican council, a significant theological adviser there. the next pope, whoever he is, will not have attended the second vatican council. so one era in the history of the catholic church and new era, which i describe in a book called evangelical catholicism, is about to open up.

people will be talking about it a lot in the coming hours and days, and the possibility of an american pope. the name that comes up, of course, is cardinal dolan here in new york. he is someone who has only been cardinal for less than a year. that would obviously argue against it. when i was talking to a mutual friend, his analysis was maybe the best chance for an american pope that we have ever seen, and yet the canses of that are minuscule. what's your assessment? >> i wouldn't say minuscule, but i would say it's a long shot. i think we might have ra north american pope. i think cardinal willette from canada will get a serious look. i wouldn't be prepared to do any odds-making right now. i think it's clear the cardinals will want a younger man, to give

a good 10 to 15 years of service. >> i think a lot of people wondered whether or not this pope would have been in the seat as long as he has been. thank you so much. it is good to see you, and i'm sure we'll by talking against in the coming days, george. >> i suspect i'll see you in rome. >> when are you going? >> soon, i imagine. >> we'll see you there then. i want to bring? senator john bur ratso. there's a lot going on the hill, but first a chance to react to the resignation of pope benedict. >> well, you make a wonderful point as we discussed, because of course the pope is infallible in these issues, but i think so much was generated at the time of pope john paul ii's ilniz.

and i think it's much more important to have a vital individual there to carry on as pope, so i think the pope made what i think will now be a precedent-setting decision. >> i think there's no doubt in that. with the advances in medical technology, if they could continue to essentially live out their lives as pope. so somebody we'll be discussing in the coming days. i want to switch gears and talk about the state of the union. glen rush from politico writing that it will be less of a olive branch. if that's the strategy, what do you think of it? do you think it's the time what most americans seen -- the time is right for the president to push hard? >> well, you know, they always ask the question, the state of the union is, fill in the blank. i think the state of the union is strong, but the state of

economy is weak. we have too many people looking for jobs and too many people who have given up looking for jobs. he never menned -- so let's get together, put people back to work. he can approve the pipeline and the other is to approve free trade with europe. >> as you know, there are reports that that indeed will be happening. there is a new poll out, senator, from quinnipiac that shows more voters trust the president that is republicans in congress to handle the economy. in fact, according to that poll, they trust him more on every single issue -- the deficit, health care, gun policy, foreign policy, does he have the upper hand? >> i think that the people are looking for results. they're not seeing it now. we have young people graduating

from college who -- and the president talks a lot about education. they could find jobs -- i think this is about his tenth time that he's quote pivoting to the economy, and to jobs, but this is like a broken record. he says it, and then goes off to other things. the inaugural address was about climate change, immigration, gun control, gale rights. he ignored the major issue on the minds of the american people, which is jobs and the economy. >> you're not suggesting you think he's going to do that tomorrow? >> i'm hoping he does. i'll have an editorial calling for him to focus on jobs, things he can do to get back to work, but not more borrowing from china and spending. the government doesn't do a very good job of doing that effectively or efficiently. we need people back to work in this country and the president continues to take his eye off that ball and focusing on just about everything than jobs and

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we continue to follow the big news this morning for 1 by oncatholics and people around the world. the pope will abdicate at the end of february, citing his advanced age and health. he took office less than eight years ago. i'm joined by monsignor anthony firerero, the personal assistant to pope benedict xiv. good to -- he always wants to give fully of himself, and certainly spoke with great courage and wisdom, but

certainly he did look frail to myself and to the other priests who were with my. for the reasons he gives, as looking at that health, he doesn't feel he is able to carry the church forward at this time, so it's a very brave and courageous decision i think he's made. >> there was an indication from the spokesperson at the vatican, that he only learned of this shortly before the announcement was made to the assembled cardinals, though people closest to the pope had known for several weeks and obviously they have begun to do some planning. what happens next? >> well, i think it really was a secret that the holy father has kept. i don't think he wanted to throw the church or anyone into confusion and turmoil. certainly it's an agonizing

decision. the hole father will resign officially on february 28th at 8:00 p.m. rome time, and at that point a conclave will be called for the election of new popes. until that time, the holy see really continues, as has always continued, in the present circumstances, which are certainly not normal. the last pope to resign, as you know was pope greg torrie ory t. and the report will provide a successor. a conclave besides a very emotional time and consequence quenchally time in the church is also a logistical nightmare of sorts, because you have to bring in the cardinals from literally all around the world with really no advance warning. in this case, you have advance

warning, though the indication from the pope is he would like a new pope in place by the end of march, in other words, there would not be -- someone not on the throne of peter for the period of a month or less. is that an indication that plans will be made and the conclave could happen very quickly? >> oh, my understanding is that the conclave will really be set in motion right away. i can be very sure that already plans are being made for the various meetings which take place before the actual conclave. there are meetings of the cardinals prior to the actual conclave. they're called congregations where the cardinals gather to hear about the issues of the church and give an idea of what the next successor of peter really needs to deal with. so certainly they will take play before the actual conclave, and

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>> reporter: it came as a major shock here. the only time that a pope resigned was back in 1294, the fifth to resign, and that didn't go so well with public sentiment. the recent ig nails was called the great refusal, and even featured in dante's inferno "the divine comedy." received more positive reactions this time. a cardinal said they admired his courage, and it does take courage to step down as a leader of a 1.2 billion catholics around the world, but pope benedict xiv is ed it himself, i don't have the strength to carry on all the duties that are required by the pope and the pontiff. he just wants a younger pope with more stamina and more

strength to take over. chris? >> claudio, thank you so much, from rome. two senate committees now plan to hold hearings because of the growing controversy over president obama's unmanned drone program. it's the democrats who are worried about the balance between security and civil liberties while the president's program is getting support from a top house republican. >> i believe just as in the prior administration, this administration we can strike that balance to protect america, to employ technologies to do that at the same time upholding constitutional rights. >> we are at a different kind of war. we're not sending troops or manned bombers. we're dealing with the enemy where we find them to keep america safe. we can strike a new constitutional balance with the challenges we face today. >> president obama's use of unmanned drones to target is a continuation of bush era policies, but the attacks have

ballooned. let's bring in chip, and margie omera. good more. margie, house majority leader eric cantor is supporting the program, yet you have democrats, including senator dick durbin, and others who are uneasy about it. when it comes to protecting the u.s., is president obama closer to george w. bush -- >> i don't think so. what you see is safeguards. former secretary robert gates saying we should have a core court going forward to make sure that we're -- that we're following procedure. you have brennan say in his hearing if we miss a target we should disclose it. that all represents a very different tone from what you saw under the bush administration, one of trying to have a procedure and openness and transparency and bringing everybody together to try to

agree on how we balance security and privacy. >> the chairman of the intelligent committee says there's no need. let me play that. >> there is plenty of oversight here. there's not an american list somewhere overseas for targeting. that does not exist. i think there's sensationalism. this is a serious matter, but i think the rules have been consistent. >> chip, as you know, the act established 'federal court that oversees suspected foreign spies working in the u.s., so the question that's being debated is should there be a fisa-like legal check on drone use. >> i think this is an issue that changes every day. we've seen it change from the bush administration to the obama administration. what we had to deal with every day with new technologies and new ways of terrorism changes every day. i think there's enough

oversight. at the end of the dame we have to support the commander in chief to make these decisions. i think that's going to be a very big challenge for not only this president, but the next several presidents. this is how we fight wars now. not with thousands of soldiers on the battlefield. we do it by computers and technology and drones. this will be a challenge going forwardivities understanding the ground is constantly shifting, some republicans and conservatives have accused the president of big hypocrite cal. let me read from a recent "wall street journal" editorial. i'm going to quote here -- you may recall that mr. obama and eric holder, before he became attorney general, denounced the olc memos that explained why waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques were illegal. yes, it merely blows them away with missiles from the sky. margie, do they have a point? is there some level of hypocrisy

at work here? >> no, there's not. former secretary gates said the procedures of the administration were following were secure, were strong, and i trust the president, i trust our procedures. i also, if you look at public opinion. it shows that overwhelmingly people support the use here. a year ago polls show 83% of people support it. a couple days ago, 6:1 people support it. i think the issues going forward is having some increased openness. i think that's something you're seeing the administration, democratic senators, seeing lots of folks saying we're going to do that, that's a good procedure, you can implement that going forward. >> i wonder, chip, how much it does have an impact, and i would be interested to get your take and what you think will happen. we'll have these hearings, do you think there eventually will be oversight? >> first of all, these decisions are very tough, when you're in

the room with intelligence that the general public doesn't see and most of the time they have no concept of, i think it's very easy to criticize these issues. when you're running for president, it's a whole different situation. i think you might see some degree of oversight change, but at the end of the day this is an executive issue. we know some of these decisions will be tough and i think that -- >> thank you both of you. >> thanks, chris. also making news this morning, four people were shot this morning inside the newcastle courthouse. two women and the suspect were killed. at least one of the victims is believed to be a security officer at the courthouse. no word on the conditions of the other people who were shot. we'll keep you posted on any developments. police in california are searching the mountains in san bernardino county for a former lapd officer. christopher dorner, accused of

killing three people ah has vowed revenge on those he believes are response for his firing. miguel almaguer is in los angeles for us. >> reporter: they have a reward for information to lead to his arrest. he's been at the center of a man hunt for five days. police say he's killed three people. in a 20-page manifesto detectives disorder, he outlines a plan for revenge killings after he was wrongly fired in 2009. police say they're on the hunt for dorner, and are using every tactic and every officer available as they search. they have been up in the san bernardino mountains for the last several days where dorner's burned-out truck, some camping gear, and a cache of weapons was discovered. officers say as that search continues, the lapd says they will reopen his case.

not for appease the murder suspect, but instead to prove to the community that they have been thorough with their investigation. the manhadn't haus centered on not just on our side of the border, but also in mexico, officers across the state and using officers with the border patrol to make sure that dorner has not slipped across the border. the lapd says the manhunt will continue as they continue to protect some 50 families with tactical officers all across this region. chris? >> miguel, thank you. the next big thing from apple could be something you wear on your wrist. cnbc's mandy drury is here with what's moving your money. like a dick tracy watch? >> absolutely. the word is apple is experimenting with designs for a watch-like device that would perform some functions of a smartphone. of course, other companies have introduced various kinds of wearable gage either, you may even have one while you're

jogging that measures physical activity, but you have to make that extra leap. it could be quite difficult, because you have to address all kinds of challenges like making the displays more power efficient, and obviously the device would also need to work closely with the iphone as well. all right. only a few more days until valentine's day. cupid is about to give the economy a shot in the arm. >> guess how much the average person is planning to spend this valentine's day? ivities i actually know the answer, but i would have guessed like, what, $50, $60? >> according to big insight, over $130. i was surprised, too. that was on everything, candy, cards, gifts, i don't know, romantic evening out? it is only a slight increase from last year, which was about $126, but catch this number. this really does put it in perspective. total spending will reach $18.6

billion according to these forecasts, and if you want to break it down, apparently more than half of people are going to buy candy, another one third will give flowers, jewelry comes in at nearly 20%, and as you can imagine, the poor guy is supposedly going to spend more, according to these forecasts, significantly more than the average woman, but i don't know, maybe that's the way it's supposed to be. >> i spect late that's because there's a lot of people who guy engagement rings, so that -- >> on valentine's day, that's just too cliche. >> mandy drury, thank you so much. >> thank you. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, we'll talk more about the shocking decision by pope benedict he will step down and what it means for the american catholic church. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year.

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abdicate has shocked the world. there was no advance notice to american cardinals, including timothy dolan, and it raised immediate speculation about who the new pope will be and what it might mean for the u.s. catholic church. i'm joined by british shop gregory mansour. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> you were as shocked as the rest of us? >> i was. >> i think he indicates in his statement that this is really a game changer for the future of the church. >> it is, but more importantly, he puts the church first and the mission of the church first, and the ministry of the church as he said very beautifully in the said, when he no longer -- he

doesn't resign, he and indicates, which is a hard word. not in the negative sense, but he lets go. he lets go and trusts that the cardinal -- college of cardinals and the holy spirit will do the work that needs to elect his successor. >> there is, i think, an overall assessment, an overall feeling by americans, and even american catholics that there are great difficulties in the american catholic church. we all know, of course, about you priest sex abuse scandal, but what has been for many years a dearth of vocations. the priests who say mass for you are not from the united states are from africa, from mexico, from south america. there was a recent study that suggested maybe as many as half the people who are born catholics who identify themselves are not practicing catholics. is the american catholic church

in crisis? is that what the new pope will inherit? >> it's the same throughout the entire world. the church has great challenges in front of it. it's not just to get members, not just to have people on the books, it's to really believe the fullness, the human touch of the gospel that pope benedict brought to beautifully. that's why all of the teachings of the catholic church bring a human touch, the gift of marriage, the gift of vocations, of discerns where god is leading us. so there will always be ebbs and flows of the catholic church, but the essence is a mission of love, a mission of mercy, a mission of christ to the entire world. american catholicism certainly has had its challenges, but it's met many of them very beautifully. >> tell me what you'll be watching for. already the speculation has begun, and i won't necessarily

ask you to name names, but is there a sense should it be a younger pope, someone from one of the these emerges areas where catholicism is growing so strongly where they're producing a lot of priests? what will you be looking for in this conclave this. >> i think as they chose benedi benedict, they will look for the best person, the best person to lead. it might be from a developing country, it might be from one of the first world countries. we really don't know, but i would personally looking for the quality of the person that is elected. >> bishop mansour, thank you so much. it's a pleasure to meet you. >> thank you. today's tweet of the day comes from a friend of the show -- at some point, he says, the church will accept contraception and female and non-sell bat priest. could it be in the next papacy? . when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car

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times. he's also the author of "the way we're working isn't working." good to see you. >> good to see you. >> i think a lot of people would theoretically -- -- would great with you, but what's like your central point here? >> well, my central point is we need to make a paradigm shift. we have spend 200 years since the industrial revolution operating that more, bigger faster is better and time is the resource that accounts for whether or not you're effective. we need to shift that, because we've run out of time. now what we need to do is find ways to increase our energy. and in particularly to renew our energy, because lifetime energy unrenewed will run out. >> but isn't there a whole psychology at work that would have to be changed because people feel like they need to be in the office for long hours, into you that shows the boss how dedicated they are, and they feel like they need to be

available, and the blackberry is never far away or whatever device it is that they have, and that's what promotions are tied to, and that's what, you know, pay raises are tied to. wouldn't you have to change a whole way of thinks for people, as the sign says, to chill out? >> without question you have to change the way of thinks, and it's a necessary shift. we are operating if a 2 isst century world with 20th century work pas. they're obs sleet. we have a world in this orgzization like apple, google, koch, are coming to us and saying our people can't sustain it. it was maybe five years ago we had to chase organizations to get them interested in our work. today they're calling us, because they recognize there's an energy crisis. >> well, part of it is sleep, and i don't know almost anyone who thinks they get enough sleep. >> i do. >> you get enough sleep. so you're the first one.

how tied is that to all of this? >> its absolutely the core. sleep is the moss undervalued behavior in the average person's life. >> people brag about it, i get by on four, five hours of sleep a night. >> a person that goes four days with five or fewer hours of sleep has about a zero percent chance of showing up with everything they've got at work. we have had made the assumption that one less hour of sleep means one more hour of product activity. that's nonsense. if you have depleted, you bring less creativity to the table, you bring less analytic power, you're less intelligent. everything sits on the foundation of sleep. if you're not sleeping, everything else is suffering. >> there's something else i hear a lot from people. i get to work, i hit the ground running, i don't stop until i leave, but you recommend working in 90-minute intervals? why? why do you think that's

effective? >> because we need to align with the rhythms of our body. we have a rhythm called the arcadian rhythm. it operates you go from a high state of arousal, physiological awareness, and energy, slowly down into a physiological trough every 90 minutes. the body is screaming at us, chris, give me a break. we override it with caffeine, sugar, and our own stress hormones. we naturally refuel when the body wands to refuel, so when you're working, you can really work. when you're renewing, you're actually renewing. >> none of us will change overnight, but a couple things for people to start in the right direction? >> absolutely. i would say in your daily life, do in fact build in at least one or two real breaks where you actually get away from your desk, leave your blackberry or iphone behind and take some time

to fully refuel. also i would say critical is to take vacations that actually restore you, so that when you go on vacation, you really leave the work behind. now, there are people who say i can't leave it behind. fine, if that's absolutely your belief, then pick a finite period during the day, deal with the work, and then let it go. the point is if you deep drawing down a bank account, you'll eventually go bankrupt. >> tony schwartz, great to have you in. >> thank you. that will wrap up this hour. thomas roberts is up next. hey, thomas. good morning, everybody. topping our agenda, news rocking the catholic church, pope benedict to step down at the end of the month, something a pope has not done in over 700 years, it paves the way for a new pontiff in place by easter. what does it mean for the world's 1.2 billion catholics. then we talk about guns and

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